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France heading towards burqa ban
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Rosiegirl



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The burqa is a cultural, not religious form of dress. The most disconcerting thing about it is that it prevents facial expressions being seen which, as someone said earlier, removes a lot of our "clues" in communication.

In the UK a teaching assistant who refused to stop wearing a similar garment lost her job because the powers that be decided it interfered with her ability to relate to her pupils and they to her.

I think few people object to the type of garment which covers body, hair and neck.

It is the all enveloping nature of the burqa which leaves only a slit free (at best) or a mesh thingy (at worst) which people dislike.

The Naked Walker keeps being arrested (and convicted) for hiking dressed only in boots and hat. This would seem to suggest that the State can decide what one can't wear/not wear in the UK.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concealing your features in public is rather like driving a car, on a public road, without number plates.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing

Don't think so, you can see everything you need to know about the "car" with or without plates. You know all about the motor from its looks but put a burqa on it and you wouldn't have a scooby. Laughing Wink


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps this is why France doesn't want the burqa! You never know who you will find under that "tent".

http://lci.tf1.fr/filnews/france/deux-hommes-en-burqa-braquent-une-poste-5678652.html



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From The Daily Mail (so it must be true) Smile

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1249157/Paris-Armed-robbers-disguised-burkhas-raid-bank.html


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

tb, what's your French reading like?

Post before you, take a butchers


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Auser



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosiegirl wrote:


The Naked Walker keeps being arrested (and convicted) for hiking dressed only in boots and hat. This would seem to suggest that the State can decide what one can't wear/not wear in the UK.


Touché


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Auser wrote:
Rosiegirl wrote:


The Naked Walker keeps being arrested (and convicted) for hiking dressed only in boots and hat. This would seem to suggest that the State can decide what one can't wear/not wear in the UK.


Touché


He has been arrested and convicted of a Breach of the Peace . It is the public who decided that he was acting in a disorderly manner to the alarm annoyance or disturbance of the lieges



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1249157/Paris-Armed-robbers-disguised-burkhas-raid-bank.html

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Rosiegirl



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redbidet wrote:
Auser wrote:
Rosiegirl wrote:


The Naked Walker keeps being arrested (and convicted) for hiking dressed only in boots and hat. This would seem to suggest that the State can decide what one can't wear/not wear in the UK.


Touché


He has been arrested and convicted of a Breach of the Peace . It is the public who decided that he was acting in a disorderly manner to the alarm annoyance or disturbance of the lieges


But presumably it was the State (in some form or other) who decided to bring the prosecution?

I am at a loss to think how the absence of clothes constitutes a Breach of the Peace. I assume that he did nothing except walk.....


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manouche



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chubb3g114 wrote:
Hi

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1249157/Paris-Armed-robbers-disguised-burkhas-raid-bank.html

chubb3g114


Shocked Shocked

Are you 'aving a grin? Wink

Take a look a few posts above you at the post by tblimousin and before that moonraker had also posted a link to this case.

If you take a look back on this page, you will see that I mentioned to tblimousin that moonraker had posted the link.
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tb, what's your French reading like?

Post before you, take a butchers Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any chance that the burkha bank robbery story could be a fictitious ploy instigated by those that want to see the burkha outlawed?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosiegirl wrote:

I am at a loss to think how the absence of clothes constitutes a Breach of the Peace. I assume that he did nothing except walk.....


Perhaps because you do not know the criminal law in Scotland.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I now feel there is an underlying racism in France which they try and keep hidden but every so often rises to the surface. to be seen by everyone."


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

"try and keep hidden"

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Like intelligence and of being learned:I presume Laughing


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Rosiegirl



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redbidet wrote:
Rosiegirl wrote:

I am at a loss to think how the absence of clothes constitutes a Breach of the Peace. I assume that he did nothing except walk.....


Perhaps because you do not know the criminal law in Scotland.


Scots frighten easily, do they?


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